2021年10月27日 星期三

新聞雜評(三百三十五)

信報 2021年10月21日

Mark O’Neill EJ Insight

HK emigrants face cold winter, inflation and shortages in UK

During the spring and summer, tens of thousands of Hong Kong people moved to Britain, excited to start a new life away from the National Security Law and "patriotic education".

But, as the days get shorter, they find themselves facing a cold winter of shortages and rising prices for food and energy.

Since Britain allowed holders here of British National Overseas (BNO) passports to emigrate, more than 47,000 have had their applications approved. Most are families with children of school age.

A recent survey by Hongkongers in Britain found that 88 per cent of the migrants had a degree of undergraduate or master's level and 69.4 per cent felt financially secure through selling or renting out property here.

It also found that, as of the end of August, only 18.5 per cent had found full-time work with an employer and nearly half were unemployed.

They find themselves in a country suffering from inflation, shortages of goods and high unemployment, as a result of the Covid-19 epidemic and the decision to leave the European Union. Prices are rising faster than wages; the living standards of many people are falling.

The Office for National Statistics said that, in August, the consumer prices index rose to 3.2 per cent, up from two per cent in July. The increase of 1.2 percentage point between July and August was the largest since records began in January 1997.

Britain is short of 100,000 truck drivers, mainly because those from the European Union do not wish to come because of complex border checks and long waiting times as a result of Brexit. This has led to shortages of goods in the shops. Families may not be able to buy the toys, sweets and turkeys they normally enjoy at Christmas.

The price of meat is going up because of a lack of workers. The British Meat Processors Association said last week that, since Brexit and the pandemic, labour shortages had worsened.

"Industries are now competing with each other for a dwindling pool of workers. The labour crisis has seen workers in strategically important sectors like food manufacture and social care being enticed away by other sectors that can afford to hike wages 20 per cent or 30 per cent. Every employer, including the public sector, may have to follow suit, but it will mean consumer price inflation," it said.

Since September, Britain has suffered from petrol shortages, because of the absence of tanker drivers to resupply petrol stations. In early October, about 20 per cent of petrol stations in London and southeast England had no fuel. The government has mobilised 200 soldiers to transport oil to the stations.

This shortage hits badly those Hong Kong people who have bought or rented homes in rural areas or suburbs of cities. These areas have poor public transport; residents have to rely on private cars for their daily lives.

Migrants who have just arrived find a wealth of information on YouTube, in podcasts made by their Hong Kong compatriots, with details on many aspects of their new country.

Many praise the larger size of their home, greater green space and more relaxed school environment for their children, who can participate in more sports, arts, music and community affairs than in Hong Kong; they have less homework and "stuffed duck education".

But there are many negatives – the weather, especially during winter; British food, with too much bread, pizza, sandwiches and tastes so much blander than at home; lack of Filipino and Indonesian maids – live-in servants are a luxury for the very rich; social life built around alcohol; and a work culture to which they are unaccustomed.

The many job shortages created by the departure of thousands of EU citizens mean an upside for the Hong Kong arrivals – many vacancies in coffee shops, fast food outlets and restaurants, food packaging, nursing and social care, manual work in farms, factories and warehouses, and truck-driving.

These jobs pay less and are not as sophisticated as those the migrants did in Hong Kong. But, according to the survey by Hongkongers in Britain, the vast majority of migrants know that they will have to change industry and accept a less well-paid job. They are willing to move to sectors that need labour and use the experience to improve their English, learn new job skills and help their integration into their new country.

They did not expect to find themselves in a country with such shortages and inefficiencies. But they do not complain. They have made their choice and must live with the consequences of it.

1. A recent survey by Hongkongers in Britain found that 88 per cent of the migrants had a degree of undergraduate or master's level and 69.4 per cent felt financially secure through selling or renting out property here. It also found that, as of the end of August, only 18.5 per cent had found full-time work with an employer and nearly half were unemployed.

BNO黃人移民多是中剷,學歷高係意料之內,但只有18.5%搵到全職工作就有啲出乎意料之外(即係絕大部分 BNOers 一係失業一係炒散?)。不過,更出乎意料之外的是有69.4% BNOers 對自身經濟情況唔擔心(估唔到咁多中剷已財自),佢地去到米國租屋住唔出奇,但 felt financially secure through selling property 呢一部分魔術師就真係唔太明。唔通咁多傷民買定米國樓,到埗即沽?

2. The Office for National Statistics said that, in August, the consumer prices index rose to 3.2 per cent, up from two per cent in July....The price of meat is going up because of a lack of workers....Since September, Britain has suffered from petrol shortages, because of the absence of tanker drivers to resupply petrol stations....This shortage hits badly those Hong Kong people who have bought or rented homes in rural areas or suburbs of cities. These areas have poor public transport; residents have to rely on private cars for their daily lives...the weather, especially during winter; British food, with too much bread, pizza, sandwiches and tastes so much blander than at home; lack of Filipino and Indonesian maids – live-in servants are a luxury for the very rich; social life built around alcohol; and a work culture to which they are unaccustomed.

汽油又無,豬牛肉又無,通脹又高,嘢食又寡,就連「外傭姐姐」都係「奢侈品」,咁嘅世界對中剷黃人來講又真係幾難捱!不過「social life built around alcohol」應該幾受巷女歡迎,大可搵 pat pat 同啲洋腸打多啲招呼是也!

3. Many praise the larger size of their home, greater green space and more relaxed school environment for their children, who can participate in more sports, arts, music and community affairs than in Hong Kong; they have less homework and "stuffed duck education".

呢個真!魔術師之前都提過的前同事勁黃巷婦D移咗民(不過好似唔係米國),又係成日貼埋啲親子家庭照上FB話個花園點點點,同阿仔一齊油欄杆等等,真係快人一步,理想達到。

又,勁黃巷婦D都有返些少姿色,後生時仲係巷女的時候,時常着埋啲跌膊衫返工(不過呢啲庸脂俗粉,當然入唔到魔術師法眼)。魔術師見佢FB有一段離職 post 係話「為免辦公室閒言閒語,雖然係 last day 但都唔好跟同事抱抱了...」唔通真係結咗婚生咗兩件都仲姣騰騰?

4. according to the survey by Hongkongers in Britain, the vast majority of migrants know that they will have to change industry and accept a less well-paid job. They are willing to move to sectors that need labour and use the experience to improve their English, learn new job skills and help their integration into their new country.

咁願意去屈就做埋啲「勞力師」工種,就唔會有一半傷巷移民失業喇!更搞笑的是要改善英語,又話有成88%最少有學士學位嘅?

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林鄭手傷後復工 論壇上指以前政府無見識、膽量規劃未來 認為未來施政會稱心滿意 2021-10-25 22:31:35

【有線新聞】行政長官林鄭月娥手肘受傷休假六天後復工,繼續宣傳北部都會區發展。她說以前政府無膽量、無見識規劃未來,房屋土地政策要花長時間撥亂反正,但相信政府在下一個五年施政會做得更加稱心滿意。

林鄭月娥復工第一場活動出席灼見名家周年論壇,手肘骨「崩」了的右手仍然包紮,主禮時旁邊的替她扶著塊牌。

論壇主題談香港下一個五年發展,林鄭月娥五年前在這個周年論壇談過對香港的八大願景,三星期後宣布參選特首。林鄭月娥:「今日我說任何說話亦不是競選連任政綱,大家可視之為一位、經歷磨練四年多的一位行政長官的肺腑之言。」

她由發展北部都會區說起,說以前政府無膽量、無見識,無條件規劃未來,「凌嘉勤教授會跟大家分享,因為基本上是我與他兩人『黑箱作業』地做出來的,所以北部都會區亦不是五年光景。我們說是20年(建成),我們爭取是15年。欲速則不達,請大家有耐心。這份施政報告引來一些遐想,就是說這時候談那麼長遠規劃,豈不是打算下一個五年……事非經過不知難,做行政、施政工作往往考慮要很多、很全面,所以不可能只是紙上談兵。我們今天的房屋土地政策,就是承受了當日的一些決定,而帶來很長時間才能撥亂反正工作。」

林鄭月娥與當年競選特首辦公室發言人戴健文對談,她說現在是「做嘢」的時候,相信未來的施政會稱心滿意,「在我字典裡沒有難和易,難又是這樣做、易又是這樣做,不過分別在於稱心滿意,抑或『揼心揼肺』都是要做。我都很肯定說,下一個五年是應該會做得更加稱心滿意,換句話說以我的標準是更易看到有成績。」

戴健文:「香港下一個五年,如果你要送一句話給香港人,你會說甚麼?」林鄭月娥:「大家保持對香港信心,我覺得下一個5年、10年、15年,都是一個應該令大家稱心滿意的香港。」

林鄭月娥復工第一天早上一連出席四場活動,除了手傷未康復,膝蓋亦貼有膠布,她之後去會展中國建築主題展為展覽揭幕,中聯辦副主任盧新寧、基本法委員會前副主任梁愛詩亦有出席,林鄭月娥逗留半小時離開,期間多次扶著右手;之後再去香港殯儀館,出席鄉議局前主席張人龍大殮儀式,參與扶靈。

5. 她由發展北部都會區說起,說以前政府無膽量、無見識,無條件規劃未來...「我們今天的房屋土地政策,就是承受了當日的一些決定,而帶來很長時間才能撥亂反正工作。」

哇,果然是「官到無求膽自大」,777即係話董伯伯無膽量(8萬5搞到「民怨沸騰」,未能擇善固執)、貪曾無見識(停建居屋)、無條件(689的任期與販民在拉布中度過);依家777得阿爺力撐,仲唔鬆毛鬆翼,牙斬斬敢叫日月換新天?又要放長雙眼(掃把頭腔)睇下777下個任期5年(一定係,除非唔係)後第一期可以點樣變革我城,令傷民更稱心滿意?

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信報 2021年10月23日

點票龜速 選管會歸咎不熟程序

9月19日舉行的選舉委員會界別分組一般選舉,整場選舉只有4000多人投票,但結果選管會在投票結束後約14小時,才完成整個點票程序,惹來各界猛烈抨擊。選管會周五發表調查報告,把點票過程緩慢歸咎於工作人員不熟悉程序,例如有點票人員為謹慎起見,要求投票站工作人員到中央點票站更正錯誤或補漏拾遺,才打開票箱開始點票,需時甚久。

選管會提出簡化流程等8項改善建議,不過有立法會議員認為,選管會並非首次就大型選舉點票,不應以「唔熟悉」為由作推搪。

報告指運送接收延誤

根據選管會周五發表的調查報告,指其中一個延誤出自運送票箱、選舉文件和物資。例如在荃灣雅麗珊社區中心投票站,有票站主任發現,電子選民登記冊系統平板電腦所統計的投票人數,較以選票票根計算的選票數目少了兩票。工作人員當時不敢質疑平板電腦統計數據,因此花長時間反覆核對,結果該票站需時2小時51分才將投票箱送往中央點票站。九龍公園票站亦有同類情況,有工作人員不熟習新設計的電子結算表,堅持以人手計算,填寫紙本選票結算表,因此需時2小時8分鐘才運送票箱至中央點票站。

另一個延誤原因是當票箱運抵中央點票站後,工作人員發現投票站職員填寫選票結算表有錯,點收各類選舉文件及物資過程亦有遺漏,而中央點票站人員要求投票站人員先修正,才進入下一步驟,加上點票站監督人員欠實戰經驗,未有酌情處理,令接收程序出現樽頸,交收手續花了一個多小時。

麥美娟批評「唔係藉口」

此外,點票時使用光學標記閱讀機亦出現「卡紙」情況,部分選票或未疊齊而出現「卡紙」,須改用雙重人手輸入選票上的選擇以點算選票;另外裁決問題選票亦有延誤,例如3張問題選票裁決枱中,只有一張可以容納候選人較多的界別,因此須輪候。報告亦交代為何多個票站早上出現人龍,原因之一是為數不少的非投票市民到票站排隊,5個票站一共接待了逾500名非投票人,佔全日投票人數約十分一,須經票站人員解釋及查核系統,才知他們非並投票者。

立法會議員麥美娟回應稱,既然選管會知道是次選舉採用新系統,應一早做好流程安排,「工作人員唔熟悉唔係藉口」,認為高級的票站職員不可能不熟悉流程,希望選管會做好未來兩場選舉準備工作,避免再次發生同類事件。

6. 電子選民登記冊系統平板電腦所統計的投票人數,較以選票票根計算的選票數目少了兩票。工作人員當時不敢質疑平板電腦統計數據,因此花長時間反覆核對

咁即係點?反覆核對完之後,係發現平板電腦啱定係票根數目啱?差咗兩票個原因係乜?點樣改善?依家份報告淨係講個 fact 出嚟,好難釋人疑慮喎!

7. 有工作人員不熟習新設計的電子結算表,堅持以人手計算,填寫紙本選票結算表...點收各類選舉文件及物資過程亦有遺漏,而中央點票站人員要求投票站人員先修正,才進入下一步驟,加上點票站監督人員欠實戰經驗,未有酌情處理

即係廢老工作人員唔識用 Excel?又唔識分邊啲係不影響點票的小錯誤,即係少咗舊擦膠都唔俾開票箱?搞咗咁多場選舉點解都唔搵返啲有經驗的工作人員來幫手?唔通班黃人辭哂職?

8. 點票時使用光學標記閱讀機亦出現「卡紙」情況,部分選票或未疊齊而出現「卡紙」

點解選票會 jam 紙,會考DSE都係咁填法又無 jam 紙?呢啲都唔係新技術,所以唔係「要人手輸入」的問題,而係根本唔應該發生。選管會真係好難講得通。

9. 為數不少的非投票市民到票站排隊,5個票站一共接待了逾500名非投票人,佔全日投票人數約十分一

咁多人混吉,係咪黃人搞抗爭呀?

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選管會調查選委選舉 指投票運票點票連環錯 促修正電子系統錯誤、簡化核對工序 2021-10-22 20:47:19

【有線新聞】上月選委會選舉花了超過半天點票,選管會調查後說,由投票、運送票箱到點票連環出現錯誤,要求選舉事務處作出多項改善。

四千多張選票,為何要花十多小時才完成點算,選管會事隔一個月發表調查報告。

投票傍晚6時結束,荃灣雅麗珊社區中心的票箱五小時後才送到會展點票中心。報告說平板電腦統計的投票人數比起票根少了兩票,所以工作人員用了長時間反覆核對。

票箱運到點票站後亦一波三折,點票站人員發現,有投票站人員填錯選票結算表,或遺漏選舉文件和物資,要求他們到點票站更正才可以開票箱。在分類時,有選票放錯入其他界別的膠箱,需時尋回。

終於到點票時,光學標記閱讀機「卡紙」,選舉事務處原本的應變方案,是改以人手點票再輸入系統。不過「卡紙」的選票,剛好是要選出較多席位的界別,選舉事務處要求承辦商即場解決。

選管會建議,選舉事務處修正電子選民登記冊系統錯誤、簡化人手工序、加強人員培訓。

31 則留言:

  1. 篇英文稿帶點二手資料感,好似聽人口譯咗/睇唐人寫咗D不三不四英文然後反芻的感覺。

    "felt financially secure through selling property",小的理解是多過一間,咁就解得通了。

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    1. 篇英文稿真心唔似 native 寫,似傷民寫多啲。

      真係咁多黃色中慘在米國買幾層樓咁富貴?

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  2. //3. Many praise the larger size of their home, greater green space and morerelaxed school environment for their children, who can participate in moresports, arts, music and community affairs than in Hong Kong; they have lesshomework and "stuffed duck education". //

    凡事有利有弊
    大間屋大個花園, 玩就開心, 清潔剪草除虫剷雪, 下下都係功夫, 又無姐姐幫手,
    港女公主變工人, 做到隻蟹咁,
    唔通貼上非死不可話俾人知咩

    讀書方面, 外國學生唔通唔駛背就識咩? ORAL ENGLISH係囉
    勉強係隔少佐層英文, 讀少一科
    叻既學生唔駛填, 唔叻, 唔填就乜都無
    填鴨係一個算係保障出品下限既無辦法之中既辦法,

    ....開貨車劏牛O米可以快樂童年, 不過加減乘除都搞唔掂都易俾人呃
    系英國做底下階層起碼唔駛瞓街既
    外國勝在有窮鄉僻壤

    //5. 她由發展北部都會區說起,說以前政府無膽量、無見識,無條件規劃未來...「我們今天的房屋土地政策,就是承受了當日的一些決定,而帶來很長時間才能撥亂反正工作。」//

    小人得志
    想大巴大巴星佢

    --Dogdogchi

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    1. //港女公主變工人, 做到隻蟹咁,

      有得親子一齊做家務, 就係港婦的閃卡.

      //填鴨係一個算係保障出品下限既無辦法之中既辦法,

      填鴨出品其實幾適合做低級公墓園, 跟SOP做便可.

      //外國勝在有窮鄉僻壤

      俾大貓叼咗去都無人 XD

      //想大巴大巴星佢

      700萬人的願望.

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  3. //凡事有利有弊
    大間屋大個花園, 玩就開心, 清潔剪草除虫剷雪, 下下都係功夫, 又無姐姐幫手,
    港女公主變工人, 做到隻蟹咁,
    唔通貼上非死不可話俾人知咩

    唔使擔心,外國好悶㗎,無咩好做,尤其係退休,財自咗唔使做個啲人,連工都唔使返,成日匿係屋企,就會無聊地整埋啲無聊嘢,好似我阿媽個舊同事咁,有錢移咗民,平日喺香港郁都唔郁,去到又無朋友,又無嘢做,就走去後園種嘢,起魚池....悶,真係會令人做出好多平日唔會做嘅事......到時你分分鐘覺得家務太少,唔知做咩好XD...當然如果要做嘢,就無咁悶

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    1. //到時你分分鐘覺得家務太少,唔知做咩好

      親子一齊做家務, 又有機會哂幸福!

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    2. //親子一齊做家務, 又有機會哂幸福!

      好可惜,去到外國,啲細路周街走,唔會再理父母,通常就無人理,又好似阿媽果位朋友咁,啲仔女大少少就走晒,應該幾千年都無人同佢講過嘢了,有朋友旅行路過去探佢,佢即刻不眠不休講咗好幾日嘢.......

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    3. //啲仔女大少少就走晒,應該幾千年都無人同佢講過嘢了

      洋腸家庭都係咁,仔(女)大咗獨立都係好少理阿爸阿媽,移得民就要融入人地文化架喇!

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  4. //但 felt financially secure through selling property 呢一部分魔術師就真係唔太明。唔通咁多傷民買定米國樓,到埗即沽?//

    I think the author meant the BNOers sold their properties in HK, not in the UK.

    Old BJ

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    1. //through selling or renting out property here.

      應該係。個英文人作者是身處我城,here 是指香港,即係我城賣樓/做收租仔,然後拎錢去米國「嘆世界」XD

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  5. 米字旗最缺既唔係教師醫生呢種精英白領,係貨車佬, 街市佬, 水電佬同地盤佬...etc, 佢預您地BNOer識點英文肯捱就得。 只是香港做開白領既捱唔到所以工作率如此低。
    除非係帶住過千萬又有現金流係當地唔駛搵食, 那些捱唔住既好返死死氣返來, 唔駛米字旗送客。

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    1. 黃人不嬲都覺得自己有材難用,鬱鬱不得志,所以才有「看不到未來」的說法。你叫班中慘走去放下身段做藍領,真係情何以堪!

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    2. 呢一啲已經喺比較高級啲啲嘅藍領(水電地盤要培訓),仲有捧餐洗碟酒店打掃執房都好缺人,要啲黃C中鏟做啲工人姐姐嘅嘢,佢哋濟唔濟呢?

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    3. //要啲黃C中鏟做啲工人姐姐嘅嘢,佢哋濟唔濟呢?

      要巷婦去酒店幫洋腸執套套?Oh NO!

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  6. 聽到首歌錢錢錢好有feel
    事源,又有人問我買樓問題,已經答左佢等居屋
    但佢竟然窮追不捨,仲話知道我們人工多少,幫我計了數, 繼續答佢,我地等居屋啦
    點知佢話唔得,人人都想財富增值

    首先我想反駁
    1, 對方當時能夠成功買樓是父母出的首期,約2015-2016年左右, 令佢層樓升值至今天,有換樓機會
    2, 我本人認為財富增值不一定要使用"買樓""
    3, 事實我地無父幹,由0開始儲真係無佢咁多錢(我地無興趣600萬樓比60萬首期食麵包)
    4, 有居屋機會(政府工作,但仍要3,5,7年後)

    現時香港最大問題之一, 一個用父親錢既人竟然可以教我置業
    簡單一句我有錢既話一早買左樓啦可以ko佢,但係d人都係唔放棄,真係唔知佢地有樓,有咩咁巴閉
    成世人唔長唔短,埋單計數,我敢肯定我不一定會比佢窮好多,乜佢唔比人後發力架咩??
    有時做人辛苦不是因為捱呢樣捱果樣,而係被人各樣的關心問候

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    1. //我地等居屋啦

      公屋最怕就係隔離住埋啲傻人、或欠債被淋紅油等...呢類「鄰居質素」去到居屋已經可以大幅改善, 如果唔係追求會所豪裝, 同埋無需用財技加按的話, 居屋真係不二之選.

      其實我如果唔賣龍門居搬私樓, 可能我可以再早多幾年財自 XD

      //有時做人辛苦不是因為捱呢樣捱果樣,而係被人各樣的關心問候

      遇到「關心問候」, 最難的就係唔知對方係曲線曬命定係真關心, 呢啲話題真係一句起兩句止,岔開算數.

      又或者, 咁都可以「關心問候」你位朋友幾時「供甩」層樓...又或者退休時係咪諗住賣樓搬去大西北(或移民)?

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    2. 公務員綠表冇想像中咁好。
      新樓都係要同公屋富戶一齊排公海,用公務員資格嘅,住戶只可填老婆仔女,所以一世都唔夠人地有長老啲人抽,單身嘅就更冇可能。
      二手居屋呢。如果市值600萬,6折咗就係360萬,代表銀行最多按呢個數借俾你,9按就係借324萬。但係,居屋業主大多開價400萬以上,咁除咗40萬首期,仲要多36萬差額先上到會。lumsum係細過私樓,但其實係買貴咗。
      另外居屋最多借25年,仲要係p按冇h按,息又多咗。最緊要係居屋借盡25年要樓齡20以下,唔係就用25/30減,一般居屋都廿幾卅年樓,會得返唔夠10年借,對比一般長年期,每月供款超過一倍。
      公務員買居屋需求有,啲人喺度唔會走,一期派得嗰少少,所以今年話你聽10年年資就中,下年就會變11年,排唔到嘅,要等班人死晒先排到。所以唔建議新公務員等居屋。而且滿20年年資,幾低級都有housing,5k/月攞十年,總數60萬以上,你買咗居屋就冇錢收。
      公務員綠表我攞過(所以先發現咁多問題,aa同銀行對居屋好唔熟,到時簽咗約先上唔到會就麻煩),我年資填表就包有,但就係以上原因,我都係買唔成居屋,變咗收housing錢。

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    3. 多謝告知,因舊居屋限制,你講得岩,我打算都係抽新居屋為主
      舊居屋同私樓價無大分別,唔會考慮舊居屋,你講得好岩!
      如果到時真係唔成事,我儲錢咁儲落去,都會買到私樓既,學你話DRY到時拎HOUSING果個津貼...
      而家我都係2手準備,一邊儲錢,一邊抽新居屋,SADLY總有一日會上到樓XD

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    4. //二手居屋呢。如果市值600萬,6折咗就係360萬,代表銀行最多按呢個數借俾你,9按就係借324萬。但係,居屋業主大多開價400萬以上,咁除咗40萬首期,仲要多36萬差額先上到會。lumsum係細過私樓,但其實係買貴咗。
      ////舊居屋同私樓價無大分別,唔會考慮舊居屋,你講得好岩!

      公務員用綠表資格買未補地價居屋都得, 同平民一樣, 不過居屋二手價已升至跟私樓差不多了.

      //一般居屋都廿幾卅年樓,會得返唔夠10年借,對比一般長年期,每月供款超過一倍。

      呢個就係我當年點解賣走居屋的原因, 樓齡愈大, 下手做按揭愈難, 變相鎖死舊錢.

      //而家我都係2手準備,一邊儲錢,一邊抽新居屋,SADLY總有一日會上到樓XD

      呢啲先係「香港人加油」XD

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    5. 除左首期,供樓另一個要點係年紀,等下等下又升左之餘,年紀大借錢又未必易借到錢。

      所以計數嘅話要連自己年紀計埋。
      重有600萬樓要預夠7、80萬俾厘印、經紀佣(可以試下講價)等等雜費。其實大西北都有啲4、5百萬可以睇住先,啱嘅上住先過幾年咪換。

      公務員未必太大擔心中年被人炒嘅問題,我有個朋友佢同我講每個月計返股息交埋租都有兩萬駛下,佢被人裁左無去搵工都還可以。不過你每兩年被個業主煩下你囉….你自己無工做去搵過層樓實俾新業主質疑(除非你一次性交一年租),舊業主加你租你咪硬食。佢自己話就話第時去咩呆灣馬拉住,未過去之前咪繼續俾業主食住囉。

      所以租人樓最麻煩就係唔知幾時業主話收返間屋要搬來搬去,幾年一次都幾頭痕。

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    6. //年紀大借錢又未必易借到錢。

      係呀,所以大表弟聽樓市大淡友老豆支笛,雖然係公墓園但遲遲都唔入市,真係隨時後悔莫及。

      //租人樓最麻煩就係唔知幾時業主話收返間屋要搬來搬去,幾年一次都幾頭痕。

      97之前啲同事成日換樓,愈借愈大, 好enjoy搬屋架!

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    7. //遲遲都唔入市,真係隨時後悔莫及
      呢兩年經過黑暴同肺炎,除左去年見到個勢有啲調整,整體都無咩大跌。自己有能力有剛需都唔入市,過多幾年後悔借唔到都要認命租租一世.

      //97之前啲同事成日換樓,愈借愈大, 好enjoy搬屋架!
      自己話換同被換屋點同!XD
      其實鍾意搬來搬去,有層樓都可以照做租租,不過搬厭左自己點都有個竇啫。一到六十歲重過住咁嘅生活,希望佢繼續enjoy…

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    8. //過多幾年後悔借唔到都要認命租租一世.

      好多人都唔明, 每年升10%, 複式升7年就是升了95%, 7年唔買就要等樓價下跌5成才「返回」7年前的價. 所以等跌基本上無 so 可言.

      //自己話換同被換屋點同!XD

      理性地想, 主動搬同被動搬都係要執屋, 所花精神時間體力金錢都一樣, 無話邊樣 enjoy 邊樣係頭痕.

      講得出主動搬係 enjoy, 被動搬係頭痕, 其實已是「黃C」思想: 你有得俾我揀, 我揀咗就心甘命抵; 你逼我做, 我就一定唔開心. 做同一件事, 卻由感性主導了「辛苦與否」, 於我看屬於濫情.

      //一到六十歲重過住咁嘅生活,希望佢繼續enjoy…

      年紀大邊有咁好體力搬來搬去... 點都要settle down架喇。

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    9. 岩呀,遲早都係會上樓,40歲前應該實得架掛?一定得既!
      買樓現時都唔係咁易,又唔係所謂平,相信唔能夠好容易咁再換樓
      比起私樓,好大機會都係等到政府新居屋去居住,一定有既,係時間問題!
      雖然話我的確係唔會比人炒,但其實係HK,最好都係搵萬蚊住公屋出身最寫意,無壓力,月光族<--我認為
      老實講我交稅都不少(跌入大稅網),而且沒有福利,係HK最夾心既階層 (又無父幹),
      一出身就撞正樓價一路大升,真係O咀,由0開始2人自己儲,從來都無停過儲錢
      由於儲錢原因,首期又7位數字嘛,我既生活質素,肯定差過公屋人士囉? 好少出街食
      咁當然我一定有飯食啦,完全無問題果隻,唔會餓
      我唔介意去新界北架,但林太話15年WOR,痴線咩..
      第3個準備係返大灣區退休,一定返架啦,唔會留係HK,傷心地XD

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    10. //最好都係搵萬蚊住公屋出身最寫意,無壓力,月光族<--我認為

      咁有啲公屋環境都係較差,最怕唔知編配埋啲咩嘢人住你隔離. 升一級去到居屋, 俾得錢買都唔會太差.

      //一出身就撞正樓價一路大升,真係O咀,由0開始2人自己儲,從來都無停過儲錢

      所以要識投資 XD

      //我既生活質素,肯定差過公屋人士囉? 好少出街食

      兩口子煮飯仔都可以增進感情 XD

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    11. //最好都係搵萬蚊住公屋出身最寫意,無壓力,月光族

      成日都話公屋只應存在於發展新市鎮,
      肩負埋"開發新市鎮"既社會功能先O岩數

      公屋又地鐵上蓋又海景, 我俾錢買都買唔起
      仲話係平機會搞出泥
      TMD, 低/唔付出獲得一樣, 咁叫唔公平囉

      --Dogdogchi

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    12. //公屋又地鐵上蓋又海景, 我俾錢買都買唔起
      仲話係平機會搞出泥//

      講到臨海公屋,我諗始作俑者係華X邨班富戶。

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  7. 做乜事又訕笑啲5+1呢XD

    //who can participate in more sports, arts, music and community affairs than in Hong Kong
    咦,啲中剷嘉獎就算喺傷巷不嬲都硬塞啲興趣班俾細路㗎喇,同填唔填鴨有咩關係?

    //不過「social life built around alcohol」應該幾受巷女歡迎,大可搵 pat pat 同啲洋腸打多啲招呼是也
    巷女要注意喺米國嘅洋腸同LKF嘅唔同,唔好見咩人/鬼都心心眼,最近又多咗有人落蒙汗藥,失節事小,惹咗啲唔知咩病就麻煩喇。

    //social life built around alcohol
    識睇波比識飲重要,所以魔兄喺完全冇問題,一定駕輕就熟好快就同洋腸(不單只米腸,德腸意腸西腸都得)打成一片XD

    //lack of Filipino and Indonesian maids
    既然都失業,大把時間喺屋企打掃煮食啦唔使姐姐了,所以唔喺問題...

    //更搞笑的是要改善英語,又話有成88%最少有學士學位嘅?
    我都唔明,啲黃C口口聲聲話傷巷流失晒啲"精英",原來啲所謂精英一到外國就咩都做唔到,話都唔識講,要靠做傷巷地剷霸三宅一生?喺黃金時期咩都唔做好易就喺咁,意志都消磨淨盡

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    1. //訕笑

      無訕笑呀! 言論自由、新聞自由之馬!

      //惹咗啲唔知咩病就麻煩喇

      可能係巷女有病先呢...

      //識睇波比識飲重要

      頂, 仲好講, 尋晚拜仁無端端都可以大敗0比5...不過我唔賭波嘅...XD

      //大把時間喺屋企打掃煮食啦唔使姐姐了

      巷婦做下樣擺下pose玩親子活動就叻, 實際上可能連地都唔識掃.

      //原來啲所謂精英一到外國就咩都做唔到,話都唔識講,要靠做傷巷地剷霸三宅一生?

      都無辦法, 買樓致富係我城最唔使用腦贏面又最大的投資法...

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  8. //小人得志
    //想大巴大巴星佢
    //700萬人的願望
    佢真係以為2020年的相對平安的局面禿己有功勞喎! 所謂好打得嘅AO真係令人噴飯

    //失節事小,惹咗啲唔知咩病就麻煩喇
    係外國人的THANKS GIVING回禮。

    //喺黃金時期咩都唔做好易就喺咁,意志都消磨淨盡
    2019年攪出咁大壇嘢仲有得走而只係「意志消磨淨盡」真係便宜咗佢地!

    //你叫班中慘走去放下身段做藍領
    係我們個市無工業又崇拜英文才看不起藍領。沒有了卸貨工人、拖頭司機,今年感恩、聖誕英美都無物可購呀!

    WILL

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    1. //所謂好打得嘅AO真係令人噴飯

      究竟777係無自知之明, 真心膠地自我感覺良好, 定係明知但係都要狐假虎威呢?

      //2019年攪出咁大壇嘢仲有得走而只係「意志消磨淨盡」真係便宜咗佢地!

      其實佢地係香港, 成日都話絕望看不到未來(因為未來將走向一國一制), 「向上」的意志不嬲都「消磨淨盡」, 剩下的就是攬炒發晦氣的「抗爭意志」。

      //係我們個市無工業又崇拜英文才看不起藍領

      某程度上,藍領多數牽涉不少的體力勞動, 年紀大咗就想做都做唔到; 我城傳統對白領的理解都係寫字樓工,體力損耗較少, 工作生涯較藍領長。 當時依家唔同哂, 白領用腦的撰耗可能唔會比體力勞動細。

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